NEWT GINGRICH:

[azfish1]

This is a transcript (obtained from Gingrich) of a section of a speech
He delivered in New Hampshire.

NEWT GINGRICH: The third thing I want to talk about very briefly is the
Genuine danger of terrorism, in particular terrorists using weapons of
Mass destruction and weapons of mass murder, nuclear and biological
Weapons. And I want to suggest to you that right now we should be
Impaneling people to look seriously at a level of supervision that we
Would never dream of if it weren't for the scale of threat.

Let me give you two examples. When the British this summer arrested
People who were planning to blow up ten airliners in one day, they
Arrested a couple who were going to use their six month old baby in
Order to hide the bomb as baby milk.

Now, if I come to you tonight and say that there are people on the
Planet who hate you, and they are 15-25 year old males who are willing
To die as long as they get to kill you, I've simply described the
Warrior culture which has been true historically for 6 or 7 thousand years.

But, if I come to you and say that there is a couple that hates you so
Much that they will kill their six month old baby in order to kill you,
I am describing a level of ferocity, and a level of savagery beyond
Anything we have tried to deal with.

And, what is truly frightening about the British experience is they are
Arresting British citizens, born in Britain, speaking English, who went
To British schools, live in British housing, and have good jobs.

This is a serious long term war, and it will inevitably lead us to want
To know what is said in every suspect place in the country, that will
Lead us to learn how to close down every web site that is dangerous, and
It will lead us to a very severe approach to people who advocate the
Killing of Americans and advocate the use of nuclear or biological weapons.

And, my prediction to you is that either before we lose a city, or if we
Are truly stupid, after we lose a city, we will adopt rules of
Engagement that use every technology we can find to break up their
Capacity to use the Internet, to break up their capacity to use free
Speech, and to go after people who want to kill us to stop them from
Recruiting people before they get to reach out and convince young people
To destroy their lives while destroying us.

This is a serious problem that will lead to a serious debate about the
First amendment, but I think that the national security threat of losing
An American city to a nuclear weapon, or losing several million
Americans to a biological attack is so real that we need to proactively,
Now, develop the appropriate rules of engagement.

And, I further think that we should propose a Geneva convention for
Fighting terrorism which makes very clear that those who would fight
Outside the rules of law, those who would use weapons of mass
Destruction, and those who would target civilians are in fact subject to
A totally different set of rules that allow us to protect civilization
By defeating barbarism before it gains so much strength that it is truly
Horrendous.

This is a sober topic, but I think it is a topic we need a national
Dialogue about and we need to get ahead of the curve rather than wait
Until actually we literary lose a city which could literally happen
Within the next decade if we are unfortunate.

This is a very sober description of the Islamic terrorist threat we are
Faced with. We are NOW at war with a culture that wants, not to take
Over our land, but to KILL us.

[Ranger]

Amen. We need to wake up and get to work. The general public is stupid, we will sit on our hands bitc*** apout racial profiling and getting out of Iraq. When the bombs goes off and thousands die, everyone will then blame the government.

One of these days we will get another wake up call and then the public will demand action. After a few more years of fighting terrorists without seeing any concequences we will get back to our same old thinking that fighting terrorists is to timely and expensive and the process will start over.

If we get out of Iraq the terrorists will take this as a win and there recruitment will go up and then they will bring the fight to us in masses.

[BGG]

Gingrich or Orwell? I couldn't tell.

[azfish1]

BGG are you talking about this George Orwell?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell

[BGG]

Yes. I think the U.S. political landscape is a lot like Orwell's 1984. And that isn't so much a condemnation of Bush as it is U.S. federal politics in general. But talking about terrorists willing to kill their babies and giving up my basic freedoms has me so freaked out that I think I'm going fishing.

[Obewan]

Originally Posted by Ranger

Amen. We need to wake up and get to work. The general public is stupid, we will sit on our hands bitc*** apout racial profiling and getting out of Iraq. When the bombs goes off and thousands die, everyone will then blame the government.

One of these days we will get another wake up call and then the public will demand action. After a few more years of fighting terrorists without seeing any concequences we will get back to our same old thinking that fighting terrorists is to timely and expensive and the process will start over.

If we get out of Iraq the terrorists will take this as a win and there recruitment will go up and then they will bring the fight to us in masses.

You are totally correct...We as in the United States of American do not understand their thinking, we think we do but if we let this go it will cost us very deeply. The loss of lives will make 9-11 look like small event.

I posted a website that takes all citizens of the United States of American who have been killed by terrorist and it has been happening well before 2001.

[Obewan]

The facts of how many United States of American citizens have been killed by terrorist.

http://www.americanmemorialsite.com