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Old June 18th, 2016, 12:05 PM   #1
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So a closeted muslim man walks into a gay bar....

...the bartender says, "What wil it be?"
Closeted muslim man says, "Shots for everyone."

Im pretty goddamn sick of this country at this point.
This video pretty much sums it all up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThzNEs9jh_8
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Old June 18th, 2016, 01:21 PM   #2
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Both are complete tools.

the reporter is a good example of pussifed american. the store owner is nothing more than an European tool with European views he was susan law enforcement guy in europe.

the story is here. it was changed over 5 times
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2673201
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It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.

One day after 49 people were killed in the Orlando shooting, I traveled to Philadelphia to better understand the firepower of military-style weapons and, hopefully, explain their appeal to gun lovers.

But mostly, I was just terrified.

Many gun shops turned down our request to fire and discuss the AR-15, a style of semi-automatic rifle popular with mass killers such as San Bernardino terrorist Syed Farook and similar in capabilities to the Sig Sauer MCX rifle used by Orlando terrorist Omar Mateen.

Killers in mass shootings used AR-15, thanks to NRA

But Frank Stelmach of Double Tap Shooting Range and Gun Shop invited me, videographer Michael Sheridan and reporter Adam Shrier to come down. Stelmach is not like many gun lovers. He admires his weaponry, yes, and has difficulty explaining why law-abiding citizens need a gun that can empty a 40-round magazine in a few seconds. But he also hates the idea that “bad people” get a hold of a gun like this and use it to kill without difficulty.

“There should be expanded background checks — extending into your family, friends and associates,” he said. “And there should be a mental health screening. In Europe, if you want to buy a gun, you have to see a doctor (for a psychiatric examination) to see if something’s not right.”
Gersh Kuntzman works with gun ghop owner Frank Stelmach on how to handle the AR-15.
Gersh Kuntzman works with gun ghop owner Frank Stelmach on how to handle the AR-15.

Stelmach, who opened his shop six years ago after a career in law enforcement in Europe, also said he never sells a gun to someone who “looks a little bit funny,” and he claimed he had prevented many guns from getting into the wrong hands because the would-be purchaser “asked stupid questions” like, “What happens to me if the gun is stolen?”

But very few gun shop owners do anything close to Stelmach’s sniff test — and he acknowledged how easy it is to find another gun shop owner willing to make the sale.

Very easy. In fact, as Philadelphia Daily News columnist Helen Ubinas showed today, you can get a military-styled weapon in seven minutes in this country.

Stelmach doesn’t think it should be easy. But he thinks it should be allowed. "Guns don't kill people. The wrong people kill people," Stelmach added. "We can't blame the weapon."

Richard Cohen: American insanity: Assault rifles for all

He loves the AR-15 for cops, soldiers, hunters and target shooters. “It’s fun to shoot something like that,” he said.
Frank Stelmach discusses the AR-15 rifle and gun control.
Frank Stelmach discusses the AR-15 rifle and gun control.

Not in my hands. I’ve shot pistols before, but never something like an AR-15. Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).

The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable.

Even in semi-automatic mode, it is very simple to squeeze off two dozen rounds before you even know what has happened. If illegally modified to fully automatic mode, it doesn’t take any imagination to see dozens of bodies falling in front of your barrel.

All it takes is the will to do it.

Forty nine people can be gone in 60 seconds.

UPDATE: Many people have objected to my use of the term "PTSD" in the above story. The use of this term was in no way meant to conflate my very temporary anxiety with the very real condition experienced by many of our brave men and women in uniform. I regret the inarticulate use of the term to describe my in-the-moment impression of the gun's firepower, and apologize for it. I have also posted a follow up piece here.

this picture says it all.saw it on the net this am.



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Old June 18th, 2016, 06:07 PM   #3
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Whoever deems an area a 'gun-free zone' should be held liable for every one killed or injured in that building.
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Old June 18th, 2016, 11:38 PM   #4
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These ban gun dudes are idiots. Imagine if he had a real gun, like a AK-74 with a 100 round drum mag...



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Old June 19th, 2016, 03:12 AM   #5
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I remember growing up in Colorado.
Everybody was hunters.
All the family's rifles would hang on a rack in the front room.
When the boys turned 14 they all got a high powered rifles.
The guns I remember were 14 ,12 ,10 gauge shotguns and dads 30.6.
22.cal rifles and a 44. Mag pistol.
Nobody had ak-47s to hunt with.
What happened ,that now the market is flooded with all these military type weapons.
Is it ,peoples ego's just to say they own one,or companys greed for money.
Or are the people preparing for a war against the government ?
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Old June 19th, 2016, 04:06 AM   #6
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Way back when ak's were not around in the US like they are now. They existed but now It is all a surplus. It's not an ego trip, also has nothing to do with what happened. I have one and several AR'S. I don't use them for hunting, but it's a lot of fun shooting them.
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Old June 19th, 2016, 07:56 AM   #7
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Way back when ak's were not around in the US like they are now. They existed but now It is all a surplus. It's not an ego trip, also has nothing to do with what happened. I have one and several AR'S. I don't use them for hunting, but it's a lot of fun shooting them.
Charles Whitman used a hunting rifle back in the 60s on top of the clock tower.
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Old June 19th, 2016, 09:11 AM   #8
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Ars and ak rifles are for one thing and one thing only.
To kill humans as fast as you can.
As far as being fun to shoot.
There are alot of other ways to prove your manhood than shooting at a target.
You guys crack me up that stock pile weapons and ammo ,thinking your going to war.
Who are you guys going to war with.
News flash. If you plan on going to war against the government.
They have tanks and rpgs.
You can't buy those over the counter yet.
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Old June 19th, 2016, 09:33 AM   #9
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...the bartender says, "What wil it be?"
Closeted muslim man says, "Shots for everyone."

Im pretty goddamn sick of this country at this point.
Me too, but probably not for the same reason you are.
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Old June 19th, 2016, 10:08 AM   #10
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News flash. If you plan on going to war against the government.
They have tanks and rpgs.
You can't buy those over the counter yet.
This logic always cracks me up. If it gets to the point that the people go up against the government, which side of the line do you think the majority of tank drivers and rpg operators are going to be on?
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Old June 19th, 2016, 10:25 AM   #11
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Ars and ak rifles are for one thing and one thing only.
To kill humans as fast as you can.
As far as being fun to shoot.
There are alot of other ways to prove your manhood than shooting at a target.
You guys crack me up that stock pile weapons and ammo ,thinking your going to war.
Who are you guys going to war with.
News flash. If you plan on going to war against the government.
They have tanks and rpgs.
You can't buy those over the counter yet.
Your a ****in idiot,
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Old June 19th, 2016, 11:52 AM   #12
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Well said Roosevelt Mark.
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Old June 19th, 2016, 12:36 PM   #13
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I remember growing up in Colorado.
Everybody was hunters.
All the family's rifles would hang on a rack in the front room.
When the boys turned 14 they all got a high powered rifles.
The guns I remember were 14 ,12 ,10 gauge shotguns and dads 30.6.
22.cal rifles and a 44. Mag pistol.
Nobody had ak-47s to hunt with.
What happened ,that now the market is flooded with all these military type weapons.
Is it ,peoples ego's just to say they own one,or companys greed for money.
Or are the people preparing for a war against the government ?
They have been around for a long, long time. I know many people back in the day that had everything from UZI's to FAL's. This was in the mid-90's. Mass shootings started happening in the late 90s with Columbine. The question is, what happened? What is the catalyst that makes this happen? No one wants to think we've coddled our population, and have given them a "pill for every ill". Couple that with a fantasy life on social media, and we've got our current situation. A lot of people have these types of weapons, and statistically, there are relatively few crimes that occur with them.
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Old June 19th, 2016, 12:38 PM   #14
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Me too, but probably not for the same reason you are.
How so? No trying to antagonize, just interested in your viewpoint.
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Old June 19th, 2016, 12:43 PM   #15
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...the bartender says, "What wil it be?"
Closeted muslim man says, "Shots for everyone."

Im pretty goddamn sick of this country at this point.
This video pretty much sums it all up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThzNEs9jh_8
Did I hear that right? "I look at you, and decide if you get the firearm? If you get approved by the state, you may not get approved by me?" Didn't know it was his decision to hand out 2nd amendment rights. What are his criteria for "looking at someone"?
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