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Old March 21st, 2014, 07:14 PM   #31
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Sounds like you've been talking to AZ G&F
Nope, just summarizing some of the people's statements on the thread! ha...
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Old March 21st, 2014, 07:38 PM   #32
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something else that will reduce the Striper population?
Commercial fishing nets... Stripers are resilient ocean fish always on the move. I'm not sure what fresh water fish could really keep Stripers in check.

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The only nutrients that enter Pleasant are from rains of which we have had a dry winter.
This is definitely a common theme here. I don't have any data to prove it wrong, but I have not seen any data that shows the water by the dam is not productive for life in the lake (nutrient poor). My boat at Pleasant Harbor has algae growth, as well as the docks/lines around the marina.

Recently, I've seen Mid-August Shad fry (1 inch) in the marina and netted 4 inch Shad off the docks that winter. There are plenty of small 6 inch stripers that get caught off the docks at the restaurant right now... If the pumped in water at the dam had no nutrients, then you would think the small fish couldn't survive, because the beginnings of the food chain wasn't there...i.e. starting with nutrients.

Or am I missing the point of the CAP water having no nutrients and why the CAP water is bad for Pleasant?
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Old March 21st, 2014, 09:53 PM   #33
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Snakehead or peacock bass!!
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Old March 21st, 2014, 11:58 PM   #34
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Spotted bass might be the answer.
It seems like spots can thrive in reservoirs that have huge water level fluctuation. I hope at some point azgfd will pay attention to Pleasant and atleast consider that as an option. I would definitely be willing to help out with stockings if spots were introduced...
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Old March 22nd, 2014, 01:23 PM   #35
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Snakehead or peacock bass!!
Piranhas and goliath tigerfish.
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Old March 22nd, 2014, 01:31 PM   #36
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There are only a few lakes in the southeast part of the country that have sustaining striper populations. A lot of southern lake fisheries management continually restock striped bass due to their popularity and the inability of the fish to successfully spawn. Here with Lake Pleasant we have a lake with a self sustaining striper population that many fishermen across the country would envy, and the local fishermen want them eliminated!?! I guess the grass (or water in this case) is always greener on the other side.
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Old March 22nd, 2014, 03:18 PM   #37
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There are only a few lakes in the southeast part of the country that have sustaining striper populations. A lot of southern lake fisheries management continually restock striped bass due to their popularity and the inability of the fish to successfully spawn. Here with Lake Pleasant we have a lake with a self sustaining striper population that many fishermen across the country would envy, and the local fishermen want them eliminated!?! I guess the grass (or water in this case) is always greener on the other side.
Who wants to catch two dozen 8 inch fish?
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Old March 22nd, 2014, 03:25 PM   #38
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Who wants to catch two dozen 8 inch fish?
Most minority's
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Old March 22nd, 2014, 03:56 PM   #39
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ya i went to pleasant once a few years ago, that was enough.
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 12:11 AM   #40
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OK help me understand this, if rain is the only way nutrients gets in to the lake where is the nutrients coming from in Saguaro?
Saguaro has a ton of plant life on the bottom in all of the coves. also because there isn't much fluctuation in the lake, there is time for plants to grow and thrive.
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 03:02 PM   #41
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flatheads eat the hell out of stripers.....

not that I would know
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 07:15 PM   #42
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Did I really read that???

Artificial structure???? You got to be phucking kidding me. All that lake has is structure,... structure up the ying yang, comming out every fricking orafice
I've truley heard it all now,... pleasant needs structure

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