dropshot swivel poll

[desertbird]

How many of you use a swivel on your dropshot rig with SPINNING tackel?

This is only my second season dropshotting and line twist has been a pain in the ass. So I started using a swivel, line twist eliminated, but man what a pain in the ass to re-rig if you break your hook off in a tree. So I start making leaders with a quality snap swivel to get my bait back in the water quickly, but what a pain in the ass that is to!

Thinking about saying screw it, deal with the line twist.

[Obewan]

Went to the SPRO swivels and great little package they got there. I also throw a Senko on both types of rods and on the spining rod have the SPRO....very noticable difference.

[desertbird]

Originally Posted by Obewan

Went to the SPRO swivels and great little package they got there. I also throw a Senko on both types of rods and on the spining rod have the SPRO....very noticable difference.

Do you have a link to the spro rig?

Also, are you saying you have better feel on the spinning tackel with the spro swivel?

[Vanillagurilla]

Spro makes swivels, ball bearing swivels.

[Obewan]

Originally Posted by desertbird

Do you have a link to the spro rig?

Also, are you saying you have better feel on the spinning tackel with the spro swivel?

The difference is in spinning tackle on baits like a Senko and DS rig there is less line twists which have experienced with and without the swivel.

http://www.spro.com/ProductDetails.a...ode=SPSB%2DALL

Also I suggest using KVD line conditioner.

If you live in the East valley Liars Lorner should be getting these in soon if he does not already have them.

[FISHFEARME]

From personal exp, a swivel is less strong than a direct knot or connection. Using a hollow braid or uni or albright has always been my choices. In ds'ing, I use a sinker that has a swivel. I also close the bail by hand every time I cast & let line out behind the boat unweighted to untwist after each trip. I also use alot of braid w/ a fc leader for shakeyheads & ds. Widespool reels are awesome.

[LoweRider]

I know this isn't the best picture, but if you can see how he has the worm hooked, it cuts down a lot on line twists.
I've rigged it that way and it works, but it sucks if you are fishing around brush.

[FISHFEARME]

Originally Posted by LoweRider

I know this isn't the best picture, but if you can see how he has the worm hooked, it cuts down a lot on line twists.
I've rigged it that way and it works, but it sucks if you are fishing around brush.

Yup....I saw that on a BASS tourney one time[ ESPN] last year. I dont remember the pro[ I think it was Aaron Martins], but he was making very sure he had his bait hooked just right everytime & I rewound it several times just to see what he was doin. It works excellent..The hook actually works like a keel. I use a texposed ds in trees or bushes though. Not open hook.

[desertbird]

Originally Posted by FISHFEARME

From personal exp, a swivel is less strong than a direct knot or connection.

...not when you're using 8 pound line... even the smallest swivel will hold before the line breaks, even a small high quality snap swivel will hold before the line breaks.

Now with that said, using anything above 12 pound I'd be concerned about swivel failure. But then again, I remember when carolina rigging was king, you never heard anyone concerned about swivel failure with that rig....

[Vanillagurilla]

I use the smallest swivel spro makes for trout and its rated at 30lb, I think the smallest size with a beating is in the 60-70 lb range.

[Justin95]

Originally Posted by FISHFEARME

From personal exp, a swivel is less strong than a direct knot or connection. Using a hollow braid or uni or albright has always been my choices. In ds'ing, I use a sinker that has a swivel. I also close the bail by hand every time I cast & let line out behind the boat unweighted to untwist after each trip. I also use alot of braid w/ a fc leader for shakeyheads & ds. Widespool reels are awesome.

+1 Braided line with a floro leader is the way to go. In clear water high pressure lakes such as pleasant, Havasu, mead etc I tie about a 20-30 ft leader of 5-8 lb floro sunline to 20lb power pro. I use the double uni and it is soooo Sensitive. Plus I can reel the knot onto the spool through the eyes so u dont have to cast that 3-4 ft leader where your swivel is. Another plus is that braid doesn't twist and with KVD conditioner I hardly ever replace the main line braid just my leader. Good way to make that expensive spool of floro go a long way!

[Vanillagurilla]

I do the same except I tie a 8-9' leader. What good is braid if it dosent leave the spool?

[QUANTUM]

you don't need a swivel at all....

use a quality line and make sure it is spooled onto your reel correctly----if your reel spins in a clockwise direction, make sure the line comes off the refill spool and onto your reel in a counter clockwise fashion.
use a quality ds weight with a free spinning swivel in the tip of it
ALWAYS close your bail by hand no matter what technique you are fishing--engaging the bail by cranking the reel handle will put at least 2 to 3 twists in your line everytime !!!!!!!!
NEVER reel against the drag of a fighting fish---wait for the fish to stop pulling drag before reeling in line.

apply these simple steps and you will make your present line twist problems a thing of the past

[Vanillagurilla]

A good reel helps to, my fav is stradics.

[Justin95]

Originally Posted by Vanillagurilla

I do the same except I tie a 8-9' leader. What good is braid if it dosent leave the spool?

Lol True but I tend to cast further than 20-30 ft. Plus a little extra leader gives a little shock absorber for hook sets. I start them long so when I re-tie my hook I get three or four ties before I use a new leader.