Wow , with an attitude like that ^^^^ it's no wonder you're fishless . lolSomething does not sound right on that muskie post? I was up at NAU in 73 majoring in football and home away from home was Ruffs liquor in Flag and we were catching big northern pike in Upper Mary and Mormon as it had perineal water and everyone was bringing in the northerns for comparison on size etc. and there were some huge fish brought in. That would of been a big deal with people talking about it if it happened? and secondly I am almost positive g and f would not have planted threadfin shad in the lake as shad do not survive real cold water, and there were times there were 12" of solid ice on Mary and Mormon people drove their vehicles out on them so I don't think shad is possible. After the idiots have illegally transplanted northern pike all over the place I doubt g and f is going to be interested in bringing in another top predator to northern lakes? my personal opinion is if you want muskies and northerns etc. move back to where you came from and leave our fisheries alone.