Be careful what you wish for. Making it easier to launch will increase use of Saguaro and bring on another whole new set of issues. JMO, fix what's there already, new boards on the docks, new bumpers on the docks, and a light bulb in the ramp light. Let's increase sheriff's patrols on the water, and protect the big fish in Saguaro before they disappear, first.
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How about these for issues G&F can address at Saguaro:
1. They have no idea of the status of the Saguaro LMB fishery because they haven't done a survey in who knows? 5 years?
2. Its their opinion that Saguaro and Canyon ARE trophy bass lakes. Yet they manage those two lakes with the same regs as Bartlett, Pleasant, and Apache. Why is that?
3. In the brief time I've been fishing Saguaro, about 3 years, I've noticed a decline in the numbers of big fish (8+) being caught. Others share my view. Its fishing pressure.
In the last 10 years the population of the East Valley, Scottsdale, and most recently Fountain Hills has exploded. That puts more fishermen (and PWCs and wakeboarders) on Saguaro than ever before.
The decline of big bass ,( how should I say this so Delw and I don't argue if the big bass even exist), AVAILABILITY at Lake Pleasant has sent fishermen to Sag and Canyon for their trophie bass.
We do it to ourselves too. Internet fishing sites like this one increase the pressure on Saguaro and Canyon. Particulary when people learn there's big bass in these lakes.
In the last three or four years trout baits have come on the market. Big fish lures that target Lunker LM. Particularly on lakes that stock rainbow trout in the winter
Way too many times proud fishermen have lifted an 8 or 9 pound bass out of the water on a stringer to show me what they caught. They were after catfish with waterdogs And then there's a group of fish-for-food fisherman on Saguaro who fish live bait, mainly shad, for bass, yellows, and walleye, And they throw them in a basket, even the 8's. They're not breaking any law, just my heart when I see an 8lb bass in a basket.
4. What is a trophy bass fishery now, might not be 5 or 10 years down the road. I don't know. All I know is what I've seen in the last 3 years. Lets push Game & Fish to manage Saguaro as a trophy bass lake and implement regulations where no fish over 20 inches can be kept.
Rippinlips: How about individual meetings to discuss only one lake.? Starting with Saguaro.
1. They have no idea of the status of the Saguaro LMB fishery because they haven't done a survey in who knows? 5 years?
2. Its their opinion that Saguaro and Canyon ARE trophy bass lakes. Yet they manage those two lakes with the same regs as Bartlett, Pleasant, and Apache. Why is that?
3. In the brief time I've been fishing Saguaro, about 3 years, I've noticed a decline in the numbers of big fish (8+) being caught. Others share my view. Its fishing pressure.
In the last 10 years the population of the East Valley, Scottsdale, and most recently Fountain Hills has exploded. That puts more fishermen (and PWCs and wakeboarders) on Saguaro than ever before.
The decline of big bass ,( how should I say this so Delw and I don't argue if the big bass even exist), AVAILABILITY at Lake Pleasant has sent fishermen to Sag and Canyon for their trophie bass.
We do it to ourselves too. Internet fishing sites like this one increase the pressure on Saguaro and Canyon. Particulary when people learn there's big bass in these lakes.
In the last three or four years trout baits have come on the market. Big fish lures that target Lunker LM. Particularly on lakes that stock rainbow trout in the winter
Way too many times proud fishermen have lifted an 8 or 9 pound bass out of the water on a stringer to show me what they caught. They were after catfish with waterdogs And then there's a group of fish-for-food fisherman on Saguaro who fish live bait, mainly shad, for bass, yellows, and walleye, And they throw them in a basket, even the 8's. They're not breaking any law, just my heart when I see an 8lb bass in a basket.
4. What is a trophy bass fishery now, might not be 5 or 10 years down the road. I don't know. All I know is what I've seen in the last 3 years. Lets push Game & Fish to manage Saguaro as a trophy bass lake and implement regulations where no fish over 20 inches can be kept.
Rippinlips: How about individual meetings to discuss only one lake.? Starting with Saguaro.
Delw,
Yeah, G&F thinks Saguaro and Canyon are trophy LM Lakes.
And I wasn't blaming lure manufacturers for Saguaro's problem, But they are a contributing factor since trout baits weren't part of the equation 5 years ago. There's just more pressure on the big fish than ever. Most big fish caught on trout baits I'm sure are caught, photographed and released. Not all but the great majority. Heck if you fished Saguaro with a trout bait and caught a 10 you'd have it mounted I'm sure! (With a little plaque saying Del's 14lb LM
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Yeah, G&F thinks Saguaro and Canyon are trophy LM Lakes.
And I wasn't blaming lure manufacturers for Saguaro's problem, But they are a contributing factor since trout baits weren't part of the equation 5 years ago. There's just more pressure on the big fish than ever. Most big fish caught on trout baits I'm sure are caught, photographed and released. Not all but the great majority. Heck if you fished Saguaro with a trout bait and caught a 10 you'd have it mounted I'm sure! (With a little plaque saying Del's 14lb LM
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