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Word is that DEWL and DA are trying to take over AZBASSPRO. Seems they wont leave Webdude alone. They have threatened to sue apperantly. I just dont understand their train of thought. Webdude built this site some 5 years ago, just so freinds can share some fishing reports, tourney info and get together on the lake. Webdude does not make any money on it , in fact it costs him several bones to run it when he has time. It was around a couple of years before DEWL started taking up the entire chat page. As most of you have noticed he lives on the chat page and rarely ever puts a fishing report in. Maybe he should get a job or go fishing...I, like alot of other fisherman enjoy this site. I will read the report page and even go on the chat page once in a while, but try not to too often or I will have to read about DEWL getting a hang nail. This is a great site DEWL. If you want to bitch about it to Webdude so much, grab your handful of groupies and start your own. FYI Webdude is ready to shut her down!
 

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I obviously don't know much about what is going on in the background JINMAG but I do know both Delw and Da are good guys and have put a lot of effort in keeping this site up. I also appriciate all that Ray does. It has got to be hard at times to keep this site going when you have other things to do. I notice this site address is still running off of Dels server space. If webdude has lost interested or has other fish to fry then maybe Delw and/or Da will take it over. This is a great site. I sure would hate to lose it or the input from Delw and DA.
 
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Jigman. you have it all wrong.

I offered to host this board until webdude got back from vacation, to help him out. that was 4 weeks ago. I have showed him different ways to keep this board running and different Ideas. To know avail. its now going on a little over 4 weeks and I am robbing the guys I host other sites for of bandwidth and space. ( I set this up on a temp server)

I offered to buy it do to the fact webdude doesnt have any incentive to keep this site going.I would be paying for it out of my own pocket and keep it from going to an advertisment page.

I been on this board for a long time and dont really want to see it go that way.

Getting any replys from webdude are next to impossible, and then when it does happen its oh well lets see what happens

this board was suppose to be changed to his server over 3 weeks ago. I was and still plan on helping him move the current post over there if and when ever he gets it going.( Like I have stated ever since the beginning)

SO next time get your info correct before you start frothing at the mouth.

And no one is sueing anyone who comes up with this stupid shit?



Delw
 
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Jigman,

I, like Tempe Pops, don't know the background to the situation. However, the personal insulting namecalling stuff needs to stop on the site. If the differences can be aired out on the site in a cool-headed and mature manner then fine, but the namecalling on the site is better left unsaid.

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Oh yeah on the money part of the hosting.

I went as far as offering to split the cost with him to keep this board up and running, even went as far as me paying the whole cost.
Ive showed him different ways he could cut the cost down. he was paying about 10x to much to host this board, he fixed that.
then I got asked if his present server would work with this board, and I told him it would with the upgrade to a higher price. thats when I showed him other options that were half the cost not only on my server but the hosting company that I use.

yesterday morning I sent him an email say'ing he had to make up his mind fast. (like I said before it was suppose to be done 3 weeks ago) I got guys on my server that want to add pages but I am using there band width to host this site . If he would make up his mind I would upgrade if need be and put it under the azbasspro.com name instead of the temp aztournyinfo temp sight.

What you also fail to realize is that I had 30 mins to set this site up. he was going on vacation and needed to leave thats why the temp link http://aztourneyinfo.del-mart.com/forum otherwise it would have read azbasspro.com (he has to change the dnsnumbers)


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Webdude now is the time when you HAVE to make a decision on what you want to do., The board has been running 1 month with absolutly no problems.
I offered my help to keep azbasspro up and running when you went down, Denny went out of his way to make it looking nice, he also added some stuff that just him and I know about that would blow your mind.

I dont know if you dont care about how azbasspro runs or what but you havent done a thing yet except let someone else run it for you 2.5 weeks ago I emailed you asking you to make up your mind, in which you havent replied other than It looks great, I dont know what part your brother has in this but if he is who we need to talk to tell me cause I am tired of playing around with someone who cant make decisions or lets things ride.

in the last 3+ years the site has always had probelms now it doesnt and it wont.

If you dont care how azbasspro is ran than sign the thing over to someone who does, if you do care how it is ran then speakup and lets get this thing taken care of.

It seems to me that you just want to have your name on something but dont want the responsibility or keeping it updated or hosting it.

I have heard you think this site is going to be a money maker so if its money you want let me know how much you want. I know too many people on this page to loose a good bunch of guys do to someone worried about how much money they can make.
I dont want to see azbasspro going to the extent of AZOD and then see someone post something only to have it erased due to one of your potential sponsors getting pissed off at someones post.

How about getting the lead out and making some decisions like fast. this site can be a great site if you would make up your mind so we know which direction to take.

Denny and I have gone out of our way to make you happy with the site, We also have given you options on what can be done to keep it that way.

NO I am not pissed just a little disapointed in you and your lack of enthuzism(sp).

And denny is going to hate me for sending this. :)

Delw
 
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Insite Web Design, AZbasspro.com and Ray Lund are in violation of my copyright on the logo for AZbasspro.com. You do not have my permission to use this graphic. You have my graphic file on your site at:

http://www.azbasspro.com/forum/templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif

Please remove the file from your site immediately.

Ray Lund is aware of the copyright status of my graphic as he read my e-mail on that specific subject on 8/25/03 10:50 AM MST. I have records of that from AOL.

Dennis Anderson
DA Web Graphics
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Del,

Its been my pleasure working with you on the "emergency version" of Arizona Bass Pro forums that you have been hosting temporarily for Ray Lund on aztourneyinfo.del-mart.com. I want to document the agreement that we have been working from and here it is.

In plain english, the files I produced for you and the design elements of the emergency version of the Arizona Bass Pro forums are copywrited by me but are yours to use with my permission. You may not copy or transfer the files and design to anyone without my permission. In exchange for my copywritten material, you have given me admin status and the ability to make any and all changes to the emergency version of Arizona Bass Pro forums.

Details are as follows:

My graphics material and design of the PHP forum webpage used on the emergency Arizona Bass Pro temporary forum are under copywrite 2003 by Denny Anderson, DA Web Graphics. Specifically this includes the following graphic files and forum settings:

-logo_phpBB.gif (the azbasspro emergency logo on the upper left of the temporary forum pages)

-azbp_pic1.jpg, azbp_pic2.jpg, azbp_pic3.jpg These are the topic and forum header color files.

-The settings used in the PHP administrative style control panel for the style known as "datest". These settings, in conjunction with the above graphic files, constitute the graphic design of the emergency version of the AZBassPro forum web pages.

By this letter I, Denny Anderson of DA Web Graphics, do give to Del Wilcox expressed written permission to sole use of the above copywrited material. The above material may not be modified, reproduced, or transferred without my written permission.

In return for the use of the above copywrited material, Del Wilcox has given admin privileges and permission to make any and all changes to the emergency version of Arizona Bass Pro forums.

Please add the following copywrite notice to the emergency version of Arizona Bass Pro temporary forum pages:

"Logo and web page design copywrite 2003 DA Web Graphics"

Thanks,
Denny Anderson
DA Web Graphics
 
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Ray.
like we talked on the phone we need to get something going on the azbasspro website with in the next week. I’m stealing bandwidth from my other boards and that is blocking them from adding things.
I need to set it up on a main page and not in a sub Directory like it is now. I need to do this quickly.

There are a few things we can do.
1. you get your own host and I will transfer the chat page over there for you.
2 Host it through me for $25 a month. I have to buy more bandwidth to do this.
3. sell or give the name azbasspro.com to Denny or I (letting us pay for the registration)

I dont like the idea of making azbasspro a paysite or even a sponsor pay site due to the fact when money starts exchanging hands people tend to get pushy and think they own the site. Like the examples I gave you over the phone. There is not a lot of money you can make on a local fishing board anyway, not enough to make it worth dealing with the problems and hassels.

If you set it up as a free site like it is now you you will have to pay for it out of your own pocket with no expectations of recouping your cost.

As you know web sites can be demanding with time and money. You will need to keep it up so not to ruffle the feathers of people that are using it.

If you sign/sell the site over to DA and or I , then we will keep it updated the way we think AZBASSPRO should be kept. And we won’t be constantly bugging you for changes. LOL

I am not trying to be selfish but if You keep the site name you have to keep it going. I have nothing into it so Its not worth it to me to keep updating pages and makeing it the best site it can be.
I always offered my help in setting up a new board for you and thats what I did and will get it changed to the host site you select if you decided to move it. Everything will be left up to you.

I would like to see a board that has alot of info on it other than the forums, and if AZBASSPRO doesnt go that route I will be building one that does for that reason alone. Mainly in the tournament,G&F and azwalleye stuff.

What do you have to say on the 3 options? There’s got to be a way to work this out Ray so everyone is happy. Are there any other options you can think of that you’d like?

Thanks,
Del
 
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Insite Web Design, AZbasspro.com and Ray Lund are in violation of my copyright on the logo for AZbasspro.com. You do not have my permission to use this graphic. You have my graphic file on your site at:

http://www.azbasspro.com/forum/templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif

Please remove the file from your site immediately.

Ray Lund is aware of the copyright status of my graphic as he read my e-mail on that specific subject on 8/25/03 10:50 AM MST. I have records of that from AOL.

Dennis Anderson
DA Web Graphics
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for the record I didnt post those emails that are signed by me(Delw) on the bottom. The ones sign by me are ones I sent to webdude. I only assume that guest is webdude.

I dont post private emails on boards. But I am sure they answered all jigmans questions and any that anyone else has.



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Da and Delw = Punk Daddy's, hmmmm I like it.you two are such rebel's,i'm jealous.you have you own fan club too. Jigman,how sad.
 
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Becareful of criticizing DA or Delw. They are part of the Good Old Boys club and you will reap the filthy vulgar wrath of the other groupies.
Very truly yours Gary Jr
Yep back like a bad dream.
 
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tempepops said:
I obviously don't know much about what is going on in the background JINMAG but I do know both Delw and Da are good guys and have put a lot of effort in keeping this site up. I also appriciate all that Ray does. It has got to be hard at times to keep this site going when you have other things to do. I notice this site address is still running off of Dels server space. If webdude has lost interested or has other fish to fry then maybe Delw and/or Da will take it over. This is a great site. I sure would hate to lose it or the input from Delw and DA.
Yep they are always good guys. Like they guy next door
 

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I don't give a Rats Ass who owns/runs this site! I have met a bunch of great people on this board and got a lot of good info(and maybe givin some info myself) Leave this to Ray and whoever else that is responsible and hope that the site remains to provide the info/BS/lies/gossip that we enjoy. Chris
 

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I really don't give a shit about who runs the site, all I know is it has been up and working fine ever since we changed over to the new format.........as for critizing Del or Da, I don't know if that's right since they seem to be responsible for getting this site running properly, but then again everyone is entitled to thier opinion........................Franklin



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Wow! I spend a day on the water and come home to find someone has called me a punk! Cool!! I need to go get my hair spiked, then dyed magenta, then my tongue pierced and then spend the day at the tatoo parlor. I gotta look the part.

I thought it very interesting that another party, Jigman, felt compelled to post. Unfortunately he misrepresented Delw’s and my position.

He said: "DEWL and DA are trying to take over AZBASSPRO." This is not a coup d’etat! Delw has presented 3 options to Webdude as listed in one of the posts above. All Webdude has to do is decide which option he wants to do and let us know.

Jigman said: "Seems they wont leave Webdude alone." True, we’d like a decision. Delw’s been paying for this board out of his own pocket for 4 weeks. Actually, using Internet bandwith Delw pays for, and promised to other boards, for this board. Webdude was to resolve this with Delw 3 weeks ago.

Jigman said: "They have threatened to sue apperantly." You need to know that I spent many days on the design of the new forums and logo. Delw and I were working on these forums in June and July in the hopes of convincing Webdude to replace his unreliable software. Then the old board started going down every 3 days until finally it was down and Webdude was going on vacation in 3 hours. He asked Delw for help and Delw gave him the current board to use for the time being with final resolution to be made when Webdude returned from vacation. I sent the e-mail documenting Delw’s and my agreement to Delw on Saturday, Aug 23rd and cc’d Webdude. Simply stated, only Delw has my permission to use the design and graphics. Webdude knew this. If Webdude had wanted to use my design and logo all he had to do was ask for my permission. Instead, he copied it from Delw’s site onto his site. Before I sent the copyright violation e-mail last night, I called Webdude at home, he didn’t answer the phone so I left a message for him to call me. I waited for his call last night, it didn’t come, so I sent the notification and went to bed. He still hasn’t called me a day later.

The last time Ray (Webdude) and I spoke was 10 days to 2 weeks ago. We went over the options and the urgency of getting it decided. I told him if he hosted it on Delw’s site and Delw and I still had administrative privileges then we could add to the site and make it even better than it is now. FYI, hosting on Delw’s site would be half the cost of Webdude hosting it on his ISP. The impression I got from Ray is he was happy with the way things were. That would be free help and assistance from Delw and I and free hosting.

Its my opinion that Ray has been taking advantage of Delw’s and my generosity while not negotiating in good faith. If Jigman can’t understand Delw and my train of thought, how can we understand Ray’s? Ray is not a technical, computer oriented person by his own admission. He runs his own business and has little time to maintain or grow the website, again by his own admission. Delw and I offered him the opportunity to improve the site, make it even better than it is now, with no charge for our work, and at half the ISP cost. Looks like he turned us down. How do you figure?

Give me a call Webdude.
 
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