New to "Boat fishing". Need remedial help

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Biteme

Discussion Starter · Aug 7, 2009

I bought a new boat a few weeks ago, took the boat out to Pleasant for the day and couldn't manage to get a bite. I have never really fished for Bass or used Lures and plastics. I have mostly used live worms, cutbait, shrimp etc from the shore in the past.

A few times bass were jumping out of the water every 20 seconds or so all around the boat, so they were definitely there but the didnt seem to like what I was doing.

Whats good in these situations? Also I hear that the bass move deep in the day because of the heat. Whats good for deep water (drop shotting worms maybe?)

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desertbird

· #2 · Aug 7, 2009

First, the fish you saw "jumping" out of the water were carp. Bass will not jump out of the water unless hooked in the face with a lure. They will "bust" the water when feeding on shad, but even then do not jump clear out like carp do.

You have started a long journey of fishing education. The internet contains a ton of info. Wish I had one good beginner site for you; I'm sure someone will.

The most important thing you need to know is seasonal patterns of the fish you are pursuing. Lure selection will come with time. But unless you know where the fish are you'll be wasting your time.

johnnie blaze

· #3 · Aug 7, 2009

Last wknd I was watching bass bust the hell outta dragonflies clearing atleast a foot outta water.

Biteme

Discussion Starter · #4 · Aug 7, 2009

I've been reading plenty of websites about bass fishing, but most are talking about fishing coves, near reeds, lily pads etc. They dont seem to cover deep water or desert lakes.

Az Bassin

· #5 · Aug 7, 2009

The only site i can think of is BASS Masters. maybe try bass fishing tips and tackticks, like stated before the internet is full of info some useful and some not. If i think of any thing else ill post...G L

desertbird

· #6 · Aug 7, 2009

johnnie blaze said:
Last wknd I was watching bass bust the hell outta dragonflies clearing atleast a foot outta water.

That's probably an exception and not the norm. Most lakes don't have enough dragon flys to make this a typical occurance. That would be cool to watch. What lake?

desertbird

· #7 · Aug 7, 2009

Biteme said:
They dont seem to cover deep water or desert lakes.

Coves are a fall/spring pattern. Mainlake is summer/winter pattern. Finding them inbetween the two extremes is the challenge. And yes finding info on deep highland resvoirs is tough, but it is out there.

johnnie blaze

· #8 · Aug 7, 2009

desertbird said:
That's probably an exception and not the norm. Most lakes don't have enough dragon flys to make this a typical occurance. That would be cool to watch. What lake?

Vaca. It was really badazz. I even watched (for 15min.) a slot sit just under water next to a rock and wait for ones to land and miss. But most were in weed lines blastin outta water.

The Lite

· #9 · Aug 7, 2009

For night fishing right now, fish submerged islands off of points where the tops of the islands are about 20'-30' underwater. Cast out to about 40'-50' depth, let the lure fall to the bottom and S L O W reel it up hill to the 20'-30' top.

Use a black, black&blue, black&red, black&purp jig with same color craw trailer, 1/2oz-3/4oz whichever you prefer.

or

Same color as above but in a worm, 10"-16", 3/8oz-3/4oz Texas rig.

Saguaro is on fire right now, bartlett has been doing really well, but some on here are saying hit & miss.

This is just my opinion, it can be a good start, others will follow with more tips, I suggest you try them, and see which one works, it can't hurt.

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Nitro

· #10 · Aug 7, 2009

try a guide trip.............. look up the hook up..

The Lite

· #11 · Aug 7, 2009

Hey that could be their new catch phrase

"Need a guide? Look up, the Hook Up!"

Biteme

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 7, 2009

The Lite said:
For night fishing right now, fish submerged islands off of points where the tops of the islands are about 20'-30' underwater. Cast out to about 40'-50' depth, let the lure fall to the bottom and S L O W reel it up hill to the 20'-30' top.

Use a black, black&blue, black&red, black&purp jig with same color craw trailer, 1/2oz-3/4oz whichever you prefer.

Thanks! thats very helpful for me.

brutus

· #13 · Aug 7, 2009

johnnie blaze said:
Vaca. It was really badazz. I even watched (for 15min.) a slot sit just under water next to a rock and wait for ones to land and miss. But most were in weed lines blastin outta water.

You throw a buzzbait?

The Lite

· #14 · Aug 7, 2009

Some people on here right now are probably screaming "GAWD DAMNIT" he just gave away my tournament secret.

Because on Bartlett, if they ain't catching them in the marina they're on islands.
You have to be patient with this one, this is a slow all night bite, you probably won't catch a lot of fish, but the ones you do catch will be quality.

Way Kul

· #15 · Aug 7, 2009

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junior7389

· #16 · Aug 7, 2009

if you are just starting out i would suggest fishing lake others than pleasant. try bartlet. the fish quality isnt the greatest but it will help boost your ego.

zxc

· #17 · Aug 7, 2009

DS 20'-40' of water dark color main lake points you will catch something.
If you learn to fish on plez you will be able to fish anywhere around here.
Maybe an experienced back seater could help.

Biteme

Discussion Starter · #18 · Aug 7, 2009

zxc said:
DS 20'-40' of water dark color main lake points you will catch something.
If you learn to fish on plez you will be able to fish anywhere around here.
Maybe an experienced back seater could help.

Is pleasant a bad choice for fishing? It's the closest to my house but are the other lakes (maybe Canyon or Roosevelt ?) worth the drive ?

GhettoRig

· #19 · Aug 7, 2009

Biteme said:
Is pleasant a bad choice for fishing? It's the closest to my house but are the other lakes (maybe Canyon or Roosevelt ?) worth the drive ?

Depends... If you wanna go broke like I did trying to figure out Plez... Go for it! Although it's only a few miles away, it can really screw you up.

Skinny dippers, LC Cranks, Worms, Jigs, Senkos, etc.. You'll get on a bite, buy a shitload of whatever it is... Next trip out you won't get touched. I got 100's of dollars in senkos, dippers, sbs, flick shake, ichi wackey rig heads, from last year and this year the fishing changed again. Although you can always catch fish on DS, it's freaking expensive when you add it all up...(Fluoro line... loosing 20 wts, hooks, worms)

On top of that... the other day I went to The Hook-up to buy 2 bags of robo worms and walked out spending around 260 and thinking to myself ... WTF just happened?

However, it's a cool lake if you learn it. You can catch fish from 1ft to 60ft deep. You can crank the bank, drop shot the deep drop offs, swim the swim bait, and sometimes, you can't top the topwater action there!

You just have to find which water is right for what you wanna do.

Good luck!

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Fishermanjonk

· #20 · Aug 7, 2009

Time Time Time. None of us have it figured out. Thats what keeps us going back. WE may think we do, but at the turn of a switch its all together different. Take a few techniques and work the hell out of them. Today there is so much crap that we get caught up trying this and trying that. Master a certain tech then move on to the next. On plez work ever so slowly watching your graph and figuring out what it is you are actually seeing and duplicate that over an over. What I mean is if you see a tree under the boat and you catch fish, then you may have a pattern going , so search the lake for just that in the same depth. I could go on and on, just dont get frustrated ( easier said than done) and its called fishing for a reason.

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